Hi everyone,
As this debate seems to be getting fairly intricate (and long), can I suggest that we move it to the logistics list?
If anyone would like to subscribe to the logistics list - which was established to discuss organisational matters - please email me or Clemencia and we will add you.
A few people have dropped off this main list lately. We should try to keep it for announcements etc. so we don't lose more.
Cheers,
Ellie.

Dr Ellie Rennie
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Institute for Social Research
ARC Centre of Excellence for Creative Industries and Innovation
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>>> Elvira Truglia <[log in to unmask]> 16/05/07 5:45 AM >>>
Dear Arne & Wilna,

Thanks for providing more information about your respective proposals.

Wilna - I didn't mean for my suggestion to sound too 'rationale' -- it would
be ideal to have consensus but how do we achieve that? The reason I
suggested the proposal/criteria-based kind of process is because in the past
there has been some critique about the transparency of the decision-making
process related to where the next conference would take place. And, one of
the suggestions made to address this concern was to send out a call for
proposals with criteria for organizing an OM conference. My suggestion now
to perhaps submit mini-proposals takes up that idea again. I do realize that
organizing an OM conference is a labour of love (hence my reference to
"passionate") and therefore a rational process may not seem to capture some
of the subjective aspects of where to organize what, when, etc.....But
again, it's up to us (as a network) to make suggestions ....any other ideas
are more than welcome.

There was a conference planning working group set up in Sydney....I assume
they are also discussing these process-related questions -- it would be
great to hear from someone in that group....

Arne - it sounds like you're saying that there is a definite window of
opportunity for organizing the next OM conference in 2008 but not
necessarily so in later years. At the same time, you say that you regard
Budapast as a "Plan B" to Ghana....does that mean that you will come forward
with a proposal only if Ghana decides the timing is no longer right for next
year? Or, are you saying that you don't want to hold the conference in
Budapest next year at all costs and would support Ghana if that's the way
the network decides to go?

And, what about the proposal for Athens -- any more information from the
person who made the proposal?

Finally, should we still be discussion this on the general list or will the
working group come to the network when there is more info.?

Elvira



----- Original Message -----
From: "Arne Hintz" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: next conference (from budapest)


> Hi all!
>
> Thanks to everyone for their thoughtful contributions. Several interesting
and
> important points have come up. Here's a quick reply to some of them.
>
> Elvira's suggestion to develop three full proposals: This is a fair and
> practical suggestion and should be okay with us (the 'Budapest team').
However
> we are currently very busy with several community media meetings and an
academic
> workshop on community broadcasting, all taking place here next week, and
then
> some follow-up activities. So we may not be able to work on such a
proposal
> before the end of May or beginning of June.
>
> Despite our enthusiasm for bringing OURMedia to Budapest, we still think
there
> is a strong case for holding the next one in Africa, and we would regard
our
> proposal as a kind of "Plan B" and as an alternative option to the "Plan
A" of
> Ghana.
>
> Alfonso's suggestion of scheduling Ghana for 2008 and Budapest for 2009:
It is
> an interesting idea and generally, it may make sense to plan ahead.
However,
> while we are sure about the feasibility of holding OURMedia in Budapest in
2008
> and can guarantee that there is a critical mass here for atative
> offer but would have to re-assess the situation later.
>
> Regional conferences: Our proposal was indeed meant for a global OURMedia
> conference. If there is a decision for Ghana, then yes, we might consider
the
> option of a regional conference, for example in connection with the
smaller
> events on specific community media issues which we are planning here.
However we
> share the concerns that were raised about regional conferences and we are
not
> sure yet if this is the way to go...
>
> Best wishes,
> Arne and Kate
>
> ------------
>
> automatic translation into Spanish:
>
> ¡Hola todos!
> Gracias a cada uno por sus contribuciones pensativas. Varios puntos
interesantes
> e importantes han venido para arriba.
>
> Sugerencia de Elvira para desarrollar tres propuestas detalladas: Esto es
una
> sugerencia justa y práctica y debe ser aceptable con nosotros (el 'equipo
de
> Budapest'). Sin embargo estamos actualmente muy ocupados con varias
reuniones de
> los medios de la comunidad y un taller académico sobre la misa tema, todo
el
> ocurrir aquí la semana próxima, y entonces algunas actividades de la carta
> recordativa. Tan podemos no poder trabajar en tal oferta antes de finales
de
> mayo o de comenzar de junio.
>
> A pesar de nuestro entusiasmo para traer OURMedia a Budapest, todavía
pensamos
> que hay un caso fuerte para sostener el siguiente en África, y miraríamos
> nuestra oferta como clase del "plan B" y como opción alternativa al "plan
A" de
> Ghana.
>
> Sugerencia de Alfonso de programar Ghana para 2008 y Budapest para 2009:
Es una
> idea interesante y generalmente, puede tener sentido de planear a
continuación.
> Sin embargo, mientras que somos seguros sobre la viabilidad de sostener
OURMedia
> en Budapest en 2008 y podemos garantizar que hay una masa crítica aquí
para una
> conferencia el año próximo, no podemos confiar, en esta etapa, para 2009 o
2010.
> Podríamos hacer una oferta tentativa pero tendríamos que valorar de nuevo
la
> situación más adelante.
>
> Conferencias regionales: Nuestra oferta fue significada de hecho para una
> conferencia global de OURMedia. Si hay una decisión para Ghana, entonces
sí,
> puede ser que consideremos la opción de una conferencia regional, por
ejemplo en
> la conexión con los acontecimientos más pequeños en las ediciones
específicas de
> los medios de la comunidad que estamos planeando aquí. Sin embargo
compartimos
> las preocupaciones que fueron levantadas sobre acontecimientos regionales
y no
> somos seguros todavía si ésta es la manera de ir...
>
> Recuerdos, Arne y Kate
>

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