Programming knowledge? Like, do you have to know something about C or Basic? If that's the case, they're being a bit misleading. Take a look at this: http://syware.com/prodlib/win_ce/vce/vce.htm Haven't talked to Pendragon lately. But they're kind of greedy, anyway. I'm hoping HanDBase will come up with something more affordable that will allow multiuser synchronization. It's a snap to set up and use and pretty reliable, from our experience. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Clonts, Neal D. Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:34 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: It was just a matter of time. Jim, Visual CE is the application I told you we had experimented with a about 5 months ago.. It is an awesome app, however it does require a good level of programming knowledge and of course "time". Have you spoken to anyone from Pendragon about any future ventures into the Pocket PC platform? Neal -----Original Message----- From: Cacy, Jim R. Sent: Fri 6/21/2002 10:55 AM To: [log in to unmask] Cc: Subject: It was just a matter of time. I was wondering when someone was going to come up with a product for the PocketPC that is as useful and extensible as Pendragon forms for the Palm OS. And here it is: http://syware.com/prodlib/win_ce/vce/ppo_vce.htm Of course, it ain't cheap. Jim