>Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:42:56 +0200
>From: "Jesús G. Maestro" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: RE: De nuevo la alegoria y Cervantes (de Bryant Creel)
>To: "A. Robert Lauer" <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask]
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>
>Dear Bryant,
>
>Thanks so much for your message. This is very kind of you. As you can
>appreciate, this dialogue is very interesting, but it is summer! As a
>matter of fact, I do not know if those for whom we write would be well
>acquainted with our (or my own) bias (maybe they are not interested in
>sharing it). Usually the common notions fail, and, in partnership with
>literature, ethics lay out a complex system that focuses on the internal
>faculties of the mind.
>
>Look, you are likely to know El mito de la interpretación literaria
>(Iberoamericana · Vervuert, 2004). Have a look if you have a chance. Our
>divergences from or agreement with the myth of literary interpretation
>might be significant. Cheers! It is better to hear the devil's side than
>to silence him.
>
>Have a very nice summer!
>
>Keep in touch, yours,
>
>Jesús
>
>-----Mensaje original-----
>De: Coloquio Cervantes [mailto:[log in to unmask]]En nombre de A.
>Robert Lauer
>Enviado el: viernes, 27 de mayo de 2005 2:00
>Para: [log in to unmask]
>Asunto: De nuevo la alegoria y Cervantes (de Bryant Creel)
>
>Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 19:17:18 -0400
>From: Bryant Creel <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: De nuevo la alegoria y Cervantes (de Jesus G. Maestro)
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>To: "A. Robert Lauer" <[log in to unmask]>
>Cc: [log in to unmask]
>
>I don't want to get into an argument (it's summer), Jesús, but speaking
>from what will undoubtedly seem to be a limited perspective on my part,
>since I neither recognize nor agree with a lot of what you say (although I
>suspect that my ignorance or lack of sophistication has a lot to do with
>it), I would venture to say that I don't discern what I always thought
>post-modernism was in your use of that term. I've never identified the
>study of ethics with post-modernism; in fact, I don't know of anyone
>besides myself who incorporates ethics into literary criticism (except for
>Wayne Booth, who does it in way that I can't relate to). Also, I think of
>post-modernism (which I can tell you about as much about as about drug
>connections in Knoxville) as actually preferring to subvert anything so
>traditional as ethics, by importing pop art, queer theory, etc., anything
>unconventional. Isn't post-modernism related to post-structuralism and so
>to deconstruction and the assertion of a universal relativism based on the
>structuralist claim that everything is language, and so fiction --
>subjective idealism: a modern form of nominalism [which does have its
>progressive dimensions, but also is, after all, medieval, scholastic, and
>bookish]? I ask in earnest because I don't cultivate an association with
>such currents, since I find them to be pedantic and academic in the
>vernacular sense. I would appreciate being enlightened on this
>subject. Go ahead and embarrass me in front of everyone -- it doesn't matter.
> As for "the moral," "moral" CAN just mean having to do with
> behavior, i.e. "concerning human action," as Aristotle defines ethics
> (hence "ethos" means [distinctive] "character" in the sense of what a
> person characteristically does). Now surely you didn't mean to object to
> allegory on the grounds that it has to do with human behavior. You had
> to mean "moral"/"ethical" in the sense of concerning normative ethics --
> do this and don't do that [I don't study that kind of ethics, by the way,
> but value theory (phenomenological ethics of value, value personalism --
> Scheler, N. Hartmann); Aristotle was a great precursor of
> phenomenology]. Now you're shifting the ground. Yet this all is
> probably related to my total failure to understand how you can associate
> post-modernism with "grounded in the study of ethics" (not your words,
> but how I interpret your meaning). Please enlighten me.
> I don't know about you, but some of us have been working hard in
> this terrain of gaining a grasp of fundamentals for 40-45 years (and
> sought anonymity in the meantime) just to get our bearings to a
> respectable degree (others of us gave up early), and I don't mean in
> relation to post-modernism (which I really want to learn more about,
> since now I consider it to be a "kitchen of technique" in creating
> in-groups and out-groups and securing jobs -- I prefer classicism of the
> manneristic variety, which is very modern in my mind).
> Diana, my parents met at Denver University. I see your a patient
> scholar, mesurada (I already knew it).
>
>Yours,
>Bryant
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