Meta and Felix --
Definitely concur with your opinion that our cherished open MAC marketplace
of ideas that should not be closed to dissenting voices.
My humble opinion.
Sharon Bramlett-Solomon
On 12/1/07 12:39 PM, "Felix Gutierrez" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Meta:
> Agreed! One Freedom, Many Voices: That's the spirit and intent of the First
> Amendment and something we should all defend and protect. It has served us in
> the past when many of our forebearers had no other avenues available to them
> and we should preserve it in the present for the future.
> Felix
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carstarphen, Meta G." <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Friday, November 30, 2007 6:59 pm
> Subject: Re: Post from Karen Dunlap
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>> Removal? In the eight years since I created the list-serv and
>> administered it, I've never removed anyone unless the person
>> requested it.
>>
>> As I said, everyone has a voice.
>>
>>
>> Meta G. Carstarphen, Ph.D., APR
>> Gaylord Endowed Family Professor
>> Gaylord College of Journalism & Mass Communication
>> Associate Professor
>> 395 W. Lindsey Blvd Room 3510C
>> Norman, OK 73071
>> PHONE: 405-325-5227
>> ________________________________
>> From: Chris Chow [[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:39 PM
>> To: Carstarphen, Meta G.
>> Cc: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Post from Karen Dunlap
>>
>> Dear Professor Carstarphen,
>>
>> I hope this is not leading to a "request" to remove E.K. Daufin
>> from the AEJMAC list because if it is then I would expect a
>> delineation and observance of a due process by which a discussant
>> is "terminated." I am surprised to learn of Daufin being removed
>> from the Poynter-Diversity list what what would appear to be the
>> word of one person to another, who apparently, has the "power" or
>> "jurisdiction" to censure a "colleague." If that impression is
>> wrong, please clarify. I have been struck by some of the
>> virulence of Daufin's comments relating to Tompkins and to the
>> Christian Science Monitor, which I have regarded with respect.
>> Now I am struck by the "short circuitry" of this incident. There
>> must be a better, more civilized, more "professional" way to deal
>> with, evaluate or judge or respond to personal attacks, than this
>> way and maintain free speech, academic freedom and equality of
>> opportunity. Christopher Chow
>>
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2007 4:47 PM, Carstarphen, Meta G.
>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Karen Dunlap requested that the following be shared with the
>> AEJMAC list and I am doing so. According to the time stamp, she
>> made this request about two hours before E.K. Daufin posted her
>> comment. In the interest of facilitating a full dialogue, I am
>> honoring her request. I have also adapted her subscription to the
>> listserv so she can speak directly to the group if she chooses.
>>
>> Finally, I shared this with her in an e-mail and believe it is
>> worth repeating to the entire list:
>>
>> "I don't moderate discussions on this list by design, but I am
>> committed to the proposition that all voices should be heard and
>> that, as a group, we are able to resolve issues constructively.
>> Thank you for taking the time to participate. I know this group
>> and I know this discussion will adopt the tone it should."
>>
>> With that said, here is Karen's post:
>>
>> ---------------
>> Please post.
>> K. Dunlap
>>
>> From: Karen Dunlap <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:23:39 -0500
>> To: "E. K. Daufin"
>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>, < AEJMAC-
>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Cc: Al Tompkins <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Conversation: What Al Thompkins should have read before writing
>> his racist Jena 6 columns
>> Subject: Re: What Al Thompkins should have read before writing his
>> racist Jena 6 columns
>>
>> To the AEJMAC listserv,
>>
>> I can't tell you how troubled I've been by the on-going discussion
>> of the Jena Six
>> reporting and references to Al Tompkins' column.
>>
>> I could outline a number of problems with the level of conversation
>> and the casual treatment of facts.
>>
>> I'm most troubled by the personal attacks upon those with whom
>> there is disagreement,
>> and I'm troubled that this comes from educators.
>>
>> Educators are assigned to teach students how to think critically
>> and clearly,
>> assess facts dispassionately and maintain civil discourse even
>> while disagreeing.
>>
>> I don't see those qualities in many of the exchanges that I've
>> followed. A disagreement
>> on facts or interpretation of the facts does not make one party a
>> "racist." That is a loaded
>> term and we need to use it wisely.
>>
>> I have conversed with Dr. Daufin on more than one area in which we
>> disagree.I now bring my concerns to the MAC listserv.
>>
>> Most of you know me. In years past I have worked with you in
>> AEJMC-MAC,
>> at Poynter and elsewhere. We know the battles that we've been through
>> and the struggles that we face. I'm appalled that we seem to be
>> allowingthe kind of personal attacks that we have condemned in the
>> past.
>> Yes, Tompkins is a colleague and friend and a person with whom I
>> sometimes disagree.
>> He sometimes disagrees with me. We do so respectfully.
>>
>> The exchange below does not represent the character of MAC. It
>> does not present an acceptable level of discourse.
>>
>> I hope this level of exchange ends.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Karen
>>
>> Dr. Karen Brown Dunlap
>> President and Managing Director
>> Poynter
>> 801 Third St. S.
>> St. Petersburg, Fl. 33701
>> 888/Poynter (769-6837)
>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/26/07 8:02 PM, "E. K. Daufin"
>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>
>> A woman of integrity and fellow Poynter Diversity Across the
>> Curriculum 07 participant sent this more balanced response to the
>> !@##$$% racist idiot Craig Franklin, editor of the local Jena
>> Times newspaper. This is a link to Howard Witt's response to
>> questions about Franklin's Christian Science Monitor piece that is
>> so like Al Thomkin's racist Poynter article. It includes a link
>> to the response by Alan Bean the pastor who told Witt about the
>> case and the director of a civil rights group called Friends of
>> Justice. The CSM piece is UGLY and full of revisionist/apologist
>> propaganda.
>> here is a response i send out whenever i get emails about
>> franklin's piece:
>>
>> Dear xxx:
>>
>> Thanks for your inquiry. I am familiar with the article Craig
>> Franklin, editor of the local Jena Times newspaper, wrote for the
>> Christian Science Monitor. Unfortunately, that article was filled
>> with revisionist history.
>>
>> If you care to read a pretty thorough debunking of
>> Franklin's claims, I would recommend the following, written by
>> Alan Bean, director of a civil rights group called Friends of
>> Justice, who was the first outsider to investigate the Jena case.
>> It can be found at:
>>
>> http://friendsofjustice.wordpress.com/2007/10/24/the-story-you-
>> havent-heard-unless-youve-been-paying-attention/
>> <https://web.cms.wwu.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=">
>> http://friendsofjustice.wordpress.com/2007/10/24/the-story-you-havent-heard-u
>> nless-youve-been-paying-attention/> <
>> http://friendsofjustice.wordpress.com/2007/10/24/the-story-you-havent-heard-u
>> nless-youve-been-paying-attention/>
>>
>> I'm afraid I have neither the time nor the inclination to engage
>> in a point-by-point refutation of Franklin's article. I'll let my
>> extensive reporting on the Jena story, available at
>> www.chicagotribune.com/jena<http://www.chicagotribune.com/jena>, stand as my
>> rebuttal.
>>
>> But I will give you just one example of where Franklin twists the
>> facts. Franklin contends that the nooses were not a threat
>> directed at black students. I can tell you that my reporting in
>> Jena over the last six months reveals otherwise.
>>
>> Fact: The principal at Jena High School did not regard the nooses
>> as a harmless incident. He recommended that the three white
>> students who hung the nooses be permanently expelled from school.
>> That recommendation was overridden, however, by the school
>> superintendent, who announced that the nooses were just a youthful
>> prank. Soon afterward, the principal was transferred to a
>> different job in the school district central office.
>>
>> Fact: LaSalle Parish District Attorney Reed Walters-the same man
>> who is prosecuting the Jena 6 teenagers for the beating of Justin
>> Barker-did not believe the nooses were an innocent prank.
>>
>> "This was an awful act," Walters told reporters on the day before
>> the Sept. 20 civil rights march through Jena. "It was not a prank
>> but a vicious and crude statement.... The people who did it should
>> be ashamed of themselves and mortified at the havoc they have
>> unleashed on this community."
>>
>> Walters added, however, that he could find no Louisiana statute
>> that was violated by the youths who hung the nooses, so he did not
>> charge them with any crime.
>>
>> Fact: The U.S. attorney for the Western District of
>> Louisiana, Donald Washington, declared that the hanging of the
>> nooses constituted a hate crime, although he declined to prosecute
>> the students because of their ages.
>>
>> "Yes, hanging a noose under these circumstances is a
>> hate crime," Washington testified before the House Judiciary
>> Committee in Washington last month. "If these acts had been
>> committed by others who were not juveniles, this would have been a
>> federal hate crime, and we would have moved forward."
>>
>> hope this answers your questions. good luck with your seminar.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> howard witt
>>
>>
>>
>> Meta G. Carstarphen, Ph.D., APR
>> Gaylord Endowed Family Professor
>> Gaylord College of Journalism & Mass Communication
>> Associate Professor
>> 395 W. Lindsey Blvd Room 3510C
>> Norman, OK 73071
>> PHONE: 405-325-5227
>>
>>
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